It had nothing to do with the techniques. If you put it into the book or not, it will not change the content of the book. Tiffany

Yes I am a stalker. It is not something I intended to learn as in sitting down one day and saying I will master this discipline. It seems rather to be a consequence of living so deeply embedded in the world, a product of adaptation that was necessary to survive. It seems that stalking is so second nature now I do it like blinking and breathing. Perhaps I should have a quarantine section in the forum with a big sign enter at your own risk lol.

It was suggested that I see everyone's folly but my own.

He is experiencing various levels of indifference that have to do with accumulating social knowledge and through this capacity able to see the folly of others. Lujan

As opposed to,

But nevertheless, what I am getting to here is that when one obtains the third attention what becomes evident is a connectivity and unity of all things and via this unity one feels everything thats vibratory electromagnetic spectrum of light avails itself to the seer.

How come it does not allow him to see his unresolved issues ?
what is the usefulness of third attention/formlessness then ? Seeitall

Seeitall, this is a great question! Perhaps the 3^rd attention is somewhat of a "dud" and not "uselful" at all, in relation to ur initial expectations.

I am utterly aware of my folly. At times it has been devastating. When I say devastating I mean the folly appears so great it can be overwhelming and yet in spite of this I act. The "smart" thing to do would be to back down. That would be the wise thing, the accepted thing, no one would blame me, everyone would understand, just shuffle off quietly into the night. But I act as if I am unaware of my folly, simply because I can. We all can.

To compound the dilemma further I chose long ago that I would not invest my energy hiding my folly, nor would I try to hone it and make it better. I know indifference, indifference to the folly. That is the socially unacceptable part to be indifferent to it and not share the same concerns. But the indifference does not help me see the folly. Indeed one could not learn to be indifferent to it had it not been seen first. I am certainly not accumulating social knowledge, merely adapting. In fact the gaps in the social accumulation just make things more difficult for a socially embedded stance.

It appears from some of these comments that I have entered so far back into a socially embedded position that it appears to some here that I never left. Whew, that is delicious!

As for emotion, the third attention amplifies the smallest fragment of information to be seen to a point that it seems that the amphitheater in terms of witnessing the construct screams at the seer ever so gently. Contradiction I know. Lujan.

Now that is a profound statement. Why does this statement begin with "as for emotion"? The third attention amplifies much more than emotion.

The forum itself is its own amphitheater. I am not sure that we have a grasp of the dynamics involved in such a sensitive arena of intensity or to the degree we think we are effected by it or able to impact others or even what to do with the impact. That is meant as an observation. Just that unspoken pieces of information are "bouncing" around. Not only are we dealing with what is said but what is implied or felt or thought or intentions, revealed or concealed known and unknown, paranoia and suspicion etc. Which we all deal with on a daily basis anyway. However many of us have spent years dampening this field of awareness and in this forum the sensitivity is becoming acute again. This can be a shock.

But still I am not demeaning Lex in any way. He is my friend. Even though what he is doing here is not a process of losing a friendship. It is a process of becoming aware and I am sure he can see that. If not at this point it is because he is being cornered. Lujan

Lujan J Sometimes I leave the computer while still in the forum forgetting to exit. My wife happened to read some of this thread and she has very little interest in this kind of stuff. And we had a few discussions about it. She agrees with just about everyone else's comments for the most part lol. She thinks what I have done here is deceptive. Then she said I don't understand why do you not just say what you think instead of being so elaborate, you usually have no problem with that? This gave me pause.

Was I having a problem with it? Yes I was. Discussing it with my wife helped. Awhile back I was pulling away from the forum. It really was becoming more difficult to remain interested and I did not like a certain direction I perceived the forum was going. I was anticipating speaking of it in depth. This was not something I was looking forward to. Work was a welcome distraction if it meant avoiding speaking. When I posted in the forum I would speak about anything other than what was really going on with me. I was being very aloof and safe. This astute bunch of seers were having none of it and kept on me as I was trying to leave/avoid. This is the "unresolve" that members have recently referenced here concerning me. Ironically this is part of what I wish to address lol.

CaptainKnow posted a thread "Rules Of engagement here" http://parallelperception.yuku.com/topic/3280?page=1

I am not sure what he was responding to specifically that had moved him to post this, but I can guess. Now he thought that what was being engaged in was psychotherapy type stuff and then in the midst of trying to establish some rules and clarity concerning this the very thing he wished to contain was breaking out a new in the very same thread lol. I do not see this individual unless he is posting under a new name now.

I know that with any public forum there has to be oversight. But sometimes I think unsuspecting people are feeling ambushed, even if they are not as innocent as they appear. I am not sure people understand our mutual enhancement.

Then there are the bouts with other forums and their members. This is of a different nature. Often agendas are involved. What I despise about this is that when warriors from other forums come here and are unable to sustain themselves in the gathering momentum, either get banned or just simply get a bad taste and leave, and then there is all the talk taking things out of context and the justifying of positions etc. Now I have no control over that I know. I just find it unfortunate for many reasons because there is something of value that is being missed here.

Now I have been reluctant to speak of this because members of this forum are enthusiastic proponents of direct confrontation. I am not. I did not wish to stand against that weight.

I am sympathetic to those who come here with their issues, often unconscious issues, and are very quickly confronted in a very direct manner. I do not think they should have to contend so soon with the intensity of warriors that are committed on a whole other level as if they too were conscious of making such commitments.

Part of the antics displayed by me in this thread has been me recovering my voice. I needed to free myself from what core members thought of me. I needed to free myself from not wishing to get banned. I needed to free myself from the thought of never meeting Lujan in the flesh. I need to reconcile with myself that it was ok to be alone again. This might seem petty to some of you but it had got out of hand with me because I let it.

The Jagur incident that has been referenced here was a relief. It did not have any hint of being corrective connected to it. It was liberating. And I am thankful.

Lex