Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:44:56 GMT

yes, as I typed the analogy, I was feeling exactly as you described. I wondered if you would pick up on it, I felt you would, and you did :)

Now we can imagine we take those fish (this is something the Chinese do here) and plant them in the ground as fertilizer, and something beautiful results.

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (yillecka) — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:05:45 GMT

like dead fish in a pond!!!! Indeed, lovely, smelly imagery - so apt! Nice to hear you again.

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:40:32 GMT

"I think if I practice not letting go of the 'pressure' to a third party, that the situation causing grief will either become intolerable, and I will know it is improper and not be able to stand it, and will deal with it appropriately, or the pressure will give me the power and impetus to speak my truth directly."

Gabrielle,

Yes, from my experiences, this has been true as well. Forcing myself to stop gossip was a big redeployment of energy. Even trivial...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (yillecka) — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:15:17 GMT

I've been away - this thread has accumulated some power. Like pin the tail on the donkey without the blindfold.

While I was away I felt something very strongly - I know hundreds of people there, I was visiting my old home, where I worked, where I have lived for about 20 years. Our over familiarity with each other breeds a certain kind of character asassination - done in the spirit of 'working each other out' or exposing something, but mostly I think, not exposing the...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (lucky) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:48:58 GMT

Tiffany wrote:
Lucky,

i know

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:47:36 GMT

Lucky,

You don't need to tell me anything. I'm not expecting anything from you one way or another. Its not that we resist another's insights, we resist changing ourselves. From the same ole same ole, our habitual responses that evade our detection. Another's insights is really the impersonal. It can come thorough anyone: animals, trees, people.

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (lucky) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:33:14 GMT

Tiffany wrote:
what we keep hidden, even to ourselves sometimes

That would be where it counts most.
Whatever you percieve that I am hiding from myself, I have no qualms about you pointing it out to me. I can only tell you that I will try to pay attention and not be resistant to your insights.

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:26:29 GMT

Lucky,

We buffer ourselves in interaction. We feel that if we can smooth things over externally, then internally we'll be balanced. It actually works the opposite. If we examine internally what occurs externally, we'll balance through self-observation that can then decide what to stop doing because it's unnecessary and a hindrance to our balance.

Then in future interaction, we can act upon our observations, and in this way we accumulate power, internal...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (lucky) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:05:50 GMT

Tiffany wrote:
Lucky,

I feel you responded to my post without really taking in what I said. That you approached it with a detached perspective, but not the detachment that is inaccessibility, rather the detachment that indicates you are accessible and so need to distance yourself from what was exposed in you.

Your small talk alerts me you are trying to neutralize the significance of what was...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (spectral) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:34:44 GMT

"""We should guard it with all we got. Which is nothing, because we are empty.""" (Tiff)

The wide open spaces within. Thankyou.

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:22:07 GMT

Lucky,

I feel you responded to my post without really taking in what I said. That you approached it with a detached perspective, but not the detachment that is inaccessibility, rather the detachment that indicates you are accessible and so need to distance yourself from what was exposed in you.

Your small talk alerts me you are trying to neutralize the significance of what was confronted by using mundane gestures of 'same ole same ole': "The thing is. It's...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (lucky) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:58:21 GMT

lol,
maybe thats why I am reluctant to cut my beard, lol

even after years of Mary yelling at me, I haven't become any good at using my "indoor voice".
On the other hand, in person I am very friendly, gentle, helpful, and I even express tenderness in certain circumstances.

I'll look more closely into what you said Tiffany, thanks.

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:21:49 GMT

Lucky,

You talk of holding up mirrors and such for your fellow men, but won't look in it to see your own image.

The mirror should be empty.

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (lucky) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:02:33 GMT

Tiffany wrote:
Lucky,

While I felt your confrontation here was well-timed and appropriate, I just read over in loving ourselves thread your defending defending defending about the meaning of love and your stance as correct. So, we need to have a balance. When we confront others, we must also simultaneously confront ourselves so that we move parallel with people rather then always trying to be ahead of them....

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:52:14 GMT

Spectral, well done!

I've confronted many members on the forum, as you know, and I've seen on many occasions long winded replies. Sometimes the length of response was warranted to clarify something, other times the response is their internal dialog activated to defend and defend and defend.

When I see your short response here, I see that you've forgone the need to explain yourself to everyone--the latter which is to keep yourself constructed and put together...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (spectral) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:28:57 GMT

"""Where's the emptiness?
I see hatred, betrayal, vanity, self absorption, but not emptiness.
To me you seem all wound up. Your posts rattle on about yourself like there was nothing else.
Thats a signal that your self needs aren't being fulfilled, ie. the need for an accurate and acceptable self image.

I read the beginning of your alchemy thread and thought, "Lujan is right, you are unhinged." lol

Hatred is a projection of...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (nagual) — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:21:39 GMT

rotfl !

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (lucky) — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:13:48 GMT

Tiffany wrote:
I think I'm going to call you "tough talkin Lucky"

Your post reminded me of a sheriff that comes into a saloon of outlaws and when he parts those swingin doors, all the card playin hustlers get real quiet and say "oh shit, Sheriff Lucky's in town, party's over boys." ...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:32:20 GMT

naomni wrote:

And there it was, the responsibility, back in my hands where I needed it to be.
He asked me what I had done to create the situation. It was a very important point for me to take into account - now and always - turning the tools of perception to the task of self-regulating instead of looking outward and projecting those frames onto others in order to avoid introspection that may reveal...

Re: Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:13:55 GMT

I think I'm going to call you "tough talkin Lucky"

Your post reminded me of a sheriff that comes into a saloon of outlaws and when he parts those swingin doors, all the card playin hustlers get real quiet and say "oh shit, Sheriff Lucky's in town, party's over boys."

Spectral, you're still trying to get a foothold. Lucky has pointed this out to you...

Our truth can easily adapt

feeds@yuku.com (Tiffany) — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:10:12 GMT

bit shiny wrote:
Tiffany,
"What originally subdues us is not "another person" but rather, how we are perceiving "them" ".

I am confirming this through the action I am beginning to take and I'm finding that through confronting the other person and speaking...